American History

» pink101 - Dominionist?

In response to Dominionist? posted by BrianTubbs:
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You are twisting my words to imply that I'm saying something I have not.
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I think I made it clear that Kennedy has every right to believe whatever it is that he believes.
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I think I have shown enough information and given enough references to show that Kennedy is a Dominionist along with Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, and some others. Rushdooney, I think, might be one of the main originators of that group.
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These men are urging their followers to make strong choices regarding their political views when they put out information such as I've quoted above. If you reread my post, I think you'll notice that my concern was not about their beliefs; but, about the idea that they want to overcome our U.S. Constitution.
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In other words, I think I have made it clear that Kennedy is a bad influence on the people who look to him for leadership and guidance. And, I wonder why you and others who claim to be moderates don't repudiate him for his radical positions. I wish I could get my $600.00 back.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Dominionist?

In response to Dominionist? posted by pink101:

I don't see D James Kennedy trying to overcome or replace the US Constitution. That is why I don't repudiate him. All he is doing is urging like-minded Christians to get involved. There's nothing wrong with that.

Falwell's Moral Majority, Robertson's Christian Coalition, etc. are NOT efforts to overturn the US Constitution and turn America into a theocracy whereby churches or denominations run the US. Do you HONESTLY believe that's what they are about?

It really sounds like what you're saying is this: D James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, et al can believe whatever they want - and they can vote however they want. But that's about it.

» pink101 - Christo-Fascists

In response to Dominionist? posted by BrianTubbs:
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"Do you HONESTLY believe that's what they are about?
"It really sounds like what you're saying is this: D James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, et al can believe whatever they want - and they can vote however they want. But that's about it."
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And, they can say what they like and associate with whom they like and they can worship however they like; but, when they threaten to impose their beliefs on the rest of society, to take over the government, the schools and every other institution of society all over the world, that is too much. They are working top divide America in a way that could easily result in violence. I can tolerate a lot; but, there is a limit. So, I want them exposed for what they are--Christo-Fascists out to limit civil liberties and to establish a theocratic statel.
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Get a copy of Chris Hedges' latest book, American Fascists--The Christian Right and The War on America; http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-...
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You owe it to yourself to read this eye opener.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Christo-Fascists

In response to Christo-Fascists posted by pink101:

Pink, I've moved in some of those circles. (Of course, I've also been to Jesse Jackson Rainbow/PUSH conference - but that's another story). I'm telling you that these folks do NOT want to establish a theocratic state. UNLESS you define what the Founding Fathers set up as a theocratic state. In that case, you have a point - because that is essentially what they are pushing for. They want to bring America back to its founding principles. They want GOD officially and emphatically acknowledged, but do NOT want one denomination or faith group calling the shots in government.

As for restricting civil liberties...what on earth are you talking about? Gay marriage? Abortion? Drug use? Prostitution? what are you talking about?

» pink101 - Christo-Fascists

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Pink, I've moved in some of those circles.
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heh heh
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As for restricting civil liberties...what on earth are you talking about?
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To read any book one might like to read, to support stem-cell research in America, to attend lectures on such things as the origin of life on earth would come under civil liberties. When D. James Kennedy talks about taking over our public schools, etc., it worries me about a student's right to learn about the history of the earth on which we exist; about what prayers our children will be forced to listen to in school assemblies; what our children will learn in biology classes about the origin of life; and, about our nation's historical foundations.
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I'd sure like to see public schools teach classes in comparative religion using the Bible, Koran, and other religious scriptures as reading material for study.
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The list could of civil liberties go on and on longer than anyone would care to read, I'm sure.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Christo-Fascists

In response to Christo-Fascists posted by pink101:

The whole label "Christo-Fascists" is highly offensive - you have a knack for serving up provocative and offensive labels. It serves NO purpose other than to inflame to hurl labels around like this.

» Brian Tubbs - Christian Conservatives

In response to Christo-Fascists posted by pink101:

Since some label is necessary to move discussions along, let's try to be as fair-minded and balanced as possible. "Christian conservative" is probably a reasonable label to apply to religiously-minded citizens or groups actively engaged in the civil arena.

The brief hodge-podge of issues you list only seems to imply that you feel some issues should be outside the realm of public debate. If you believe that our government should be "of, by, and for the people," then aren't Christian conservatives PEOPLE? Don't they get a voice? And what if they're able to persuade other people to go along? What if they become the majority?

By the way...the issue with stem cell research is FUNDING and I'm aware of no book-burning parties hosted by Christian conservatives. Christians are not out to ban books. That's just nonsense! And what's this business about people not being allowed to attend lectures on the origin of life? I know of NO Christian effort to stamp out public lectures. Good grief.

» pink101 - Christian Conservatives

In response to Christian Conservatives posted by BrianTubbs:
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The way I look at this situation with the dominionists is that they are fascists in the early stages and they are using Christianity to get to their goals.
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You're crazy if you think they wouldn't make it illegal to teach evolution in public schools or that they wouldn't teach the biblical account of creation. If they had the power to do that. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Recent History

In response to Christian Conservatives posted by pink101:
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I just watched a DVD recounting the history involved in the assassination of J.F.K.
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The people who put it together have done a great deal of investigation and they are able to tie a group of very highly placed people into the murder.
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They either have fabricated the story completely or they have uncovered an amazing program starting a long time ago.
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I guess their investigation qualifies as history.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Aid & Comfort To The Enemy

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12...
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Check it out.
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See if you can handle truth when it stares you in the face.
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-- posted by pink101